Comments on: Maybe ‘What’s Going on with the Clintons’ was the wrong title http://www.clipsandcomment.com/2008/08/07/maybe-whats-going-on-with-the-clintons-was-the-wrong-title/ News, Politics, and Society: Ohio and the World Mon, 11 Jan 2010 21:19:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Disenchanted... http://www.clipsandcomment.com/2008/08/07/maybe-whats-going-on-with-the-clintons-was-the-wrong-title/comment-page-1/#comment-549 Disenchanted... Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:50:13 +0000 http://www.clipsandcomment.com/?p=474#comment-549 I understand your frustration. Don't take it so personally though...The easiest way for Americans to fight is behind closed doors. Years ago we may have hidden behind costumes but today we simply hide behind an Internet connection and anonymous postings. The truth is, most Americans simply don't engage in commentary to articles and blogs. A very specific group of Americans do and this number, in the big picture, does not even provide an accurate representation of how the news is received. Most times we simply shake our heads at the repetitive nonsense, and the lies. Don't think that these people are stupid; that they just don't get it. The truth is far less exciting...as a people who have traded in loyalty for instant gratification; times that call for a sense of this dying feeling have become overwhelming and difficult to adjust. These people who never felt such passion for the political process, stood up and attempted to believe and be loyal and stand by Hillary Clinton whose husband brought us some of the greatest years of our lives (some of us weren't around for the greats of old)...they feel sad, frustrated and a sense of failure because their candidate didn't get the prize. What some of us need to remember though is that Hillary and Obama are on the same team...and Obama will have all of her support. If you trusted her judgement before, why not now. She can run again in a few years, just as McCain wanted to win his party's nomination so many times before; there is a time and a place for it...His time is now. Barack's time is now. Hillary will be there soon enough...let's make sure that our country can rebuild and be prepared for her to lead. Let's not submit to the instant gratification thinking that is tearing this country and world apart...that it's all or nothing. Its Hillary as the democrat or McCain. You will be hurting all of us...including Hillary if you vote that way. And you will regret your stubborness. I understand your frustration. Don’t take it so personally though…The easiest way for Americans to fight is behind closed doors. Years ago we may have hidden behind costumes but today we simply hide behind an Internet connection and anonymous postings. The truth is, most Americans simply don’t engage in commentary to articles and blogs. A very specific group of Americans do and this number, in the big picture, does not even provide an accurate representation of how the news is received. Most times we simply shake our heads at the repetitive nonsense, and the lies. Don’t think that these people are stupid; that they just don’t get it. The truth is far less exciting…as a people who have traded in loyalty for instant gratification; times that call for a sense of this dying feeling have become overwhelming and difficult to adjust. These people who never felt such passion for the political process, stood up and attempted to believe and be loyal and stand by Hillary Clinton whose husband brought us some of the greatest years of our lives (some of us weren’t around for the greats of old)…they feel sad, frustrated and a sense of failure because their candidate didn’t get the prize. What some of us need to remember though is that Hillary and Obama are on the same team…and Obama will have all of her support. If you trusted her judgement before, why not now. She can run again in a few years, just as McCain wanted to win his party’s nomination so many times before; there is a time and a place for it…His time is now. Barack’s time is now. Hillary will be there soon enough…let’s make sure that our country can rebuild and be prepared for her to lead. Let’s not submit to the instant gratification thinking that is tearing this country and world apart…that it’s all or nothing. Its Hillary as the democrat or McCain. You will be hurting all of us…including Hillary if you vote that way. And you will regret your stubborness.

]]> By: Emmery Jones Jr Medical Record's Admin.CCS-P http://www.clipsandcomment.com/2008/08/07/maybe-whats-going-on-with-the-clintons-was-the-wrong-title/comment-page-1/#comment-409 Emmery Jones Jr Medical Record's Admin.CCS-P Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:06:14 +0000 http://www.clipsandcomment.com/?p=474#comment-409 Date:Wed Aug 20,2008 Time:3:13PM PUMA'S KEEPING IT'S PROMISE..NO OBAMA ! "I repectfully disagree, with the writer's opinion above, that OBAMA,won the demoncratic nomination fair and squard. ,It was the Republican's who voted for Obama in that demoncatic contest. Nevertheless, I look forward to Obama's win in the fall without..Hillary R.Clinton's name on the ballot box. Sincerely, Emmery Jones Jr Medical Record's Consultant CCS-P Date:Wed Aug 20,2008
Time:3:13PM

PUMA’S KEEPING IT’S PROMISE..NO OBAMA !

“I repectfully disagree, with the writer’s opinion above, that OBAMA,won the demoncratic nomination fair and squard. ,It was the Republican’s who voted for Obama in that demoncatic contest. Nevertheless, I look forward to Obama’s win in the fall without..Hillary R.Clinton’s name on the ballot box.

Sincerely,

Emmery Jones Jr
Medical Record’s Consultant CCS-P

]]> By: Lisa http://www.clipsandcomment.com/2008/08/07/maybe-whats-going-on-with-the-clintons-was-the-wrong-title/comment-page-1/#comment-302 Lisa Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:42:08 +0000 http://www.clipsandcomment.com/?p=474#comment-302 I can't believe most of these comments. They are frightening. McCain or Obama. No contest whether you supported Obama or not. McCain is a scary old guy who will have his hand on the button. Please, Hillary supporters, wake up! We need you to come together to kick these guys out of office hopefully once and for all. I can’t believe most of these comments. They are frightening. McCain or Obama. No contest whether you supported Obama or not. McCain is a scary old guy who will have his hand on the button. Please, Hillary supporters, wake up! We need you to come together to kick these guys out of office hopefully once and for all.

]]> By: notodisenfranchisement http://www.clipsandcomment.com/2008/08/07/maybe-whats-going-on-with-the-clintons-was-the-wrong-title/comment-page-1/#comment-279 notodisenfranchisement Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:01:49 +0000 http://www.clipsandcomment.com/?p=474#comment-279 wow, accusing millions of people, possibly up to 9 million people, of emotional instability, instead of respecting that many of these people have been life-long Democrats, contributed to the DNC, are also Democratic women who fell in line for centuries whenever it was politically expedient for their party to kick their rights to the curb... is it any wonder we're bitter against you? if you're so interested in Unity, then, you should be showing respect instead of blame. being someone who was a Democrat, and is now an Independent, it's much easier to talk about the hypocrisy of the Democrats - and this is another example how Democrats shout for tolerance and inclusion, yet abhor anyone who disagrees with them. Only this time, it's not Dems vs. Republicans, it's Dems vs. Dems. wow, accusing millions of people, possibly up to 9 million people, of emotional instability, instead of respecting that many of these people have been life-long Democrats, contributed to the DNC, are also Democratic women who fell in line for centuries whenever it was politically expedient for their party to kick their rights to the curb…

is it any wonder we’re bitter against you?

if you’re so interested in Unity, then, you should be showing respect instead of blame.

being someone who was a Democrat, and is now an Independent, it’s much easier to talk about the hypocrisy of the Democrats – and this is another example how Democrats shout for tolerance and inclusion, yet abhor anyone who disagrees with them. Only this time, it’s not Dems vs. Republicans, it’s Dems vs. Dems.

]]> By: artsykr http://www.clipsandcomment.com/2008/08/07/maybe-whats-going-on-with-the-clintons-was-the-wrong-title/comment-page-1/#comment-278 artsykr Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:39:05 +0000 http://www.clipsandcomment.com/?p=474#comment-278 Hmmm, why I just cannot get around supporting the guy....let's see running on transparency but has his birth certificate sealed, still waiting for his medical records...brings in a note from his doctor? sheesh...can't find his state senate papers...guess the dog ate them...can't seem to make a decision...130 "present" votes...oh yeah and then there were those what 5 or 6 must have hit the "wrong button" votes....loves to play "victim" therefore no sense of inner strength...ie: much slef loathing...should I go on?!! Why it is that this country wants to put less than the best out there to represent itself is beyond my comprehension...geezuz crust just "get over it!" he's flipping around as much as a fish out of water...not my idea of a strong leader...but hey good luck with that...Hillary or McCain BOOYAH!!! Hmmm, why I just cannot get around supporting the guy….let’s see running on transparency but has his birth certificate sealed, still waiting for his medical records…brings in a note from his doctor? sheesh…can’t find his state senate papers…guess the dog ate them…can’t seem to make a decision…130 “present” votes…oh yeah and then there were those what 5 or 6 must have hit the “wrong button” votes….loves to play “victim” therefore no sense of inner strength…ie: much slef loathing…should I go on?!!

Why it is that this country wants to put less than the best out there to represent itself is beyond my comprehension…geezuz crust just “get over it!” he’s flipping around as much as a fish out of water…not my idea of a strong leader…but hey good luck with that…Hillary or McCain BOOYAH!!!

]]> By: Puget Sound Island Girl http://www.clipsandcomment.com/2008/08/07/maybe-whats-going-on-with-the-clintons-was-the-wrong-title/comment-page-1/#comment-277 Puget Sound Island Girl Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:36:11 +0000 http://www.clipsandcomment.com/?p=474#comment-277 Fair & square? That's where you showed your Kool-Aid addiction. One day you will look back and be shocked at what you fell for---The truth and the guilt are going to hurt. Rather than delay the inevitable, put down the Kool-Aid, open your eyes and start reading. Go to justsaynodeal.com and read the blogs listed on the right. You will feel much better now and in the future (You should hear my mother when she talks about falling for McGovern!). Have a great day. PUMA. On to Denver! Fair & square?

That’s where you showed your Kool-Aid addiction. One day you will look back and be shocked at what you fell for—The truth and the guilt are going to hurt. Rather than delay the inevitable, put down the Kool-Aid, open your eyes and start reading. Go to justsaynodeal.com and read the blogs listed on the right. You will feel much better now and in the future (You should hear my mother when she talks about falling for McGovern!).

Have a great day.
PUMA.
On to Denver!

]]> By: albion'sseed http://www.clipsandcomment.com/2008/08/07/maybe-whats-going-on-with-the-clintons-was-the-wrong-title/comment-page-1/#comment-276 albion'sseed Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:46:13 +0000 http://www.clipsandcomment.com/?p=474#comment-276 So you finally said it isn't all the Clinton's fault. How gracious of you! Of course it isn't. It is my fault and millions like me from PA(me) and all over. I was called bitter, clingy and,oh yes, Donna Brazile said the party doesn't need me. The fault for Obama's lack of traction falls right in his own nest of viperous supporters. He is an empty suit pumped up by infantile and arrogant followers who will demonize anyone who doesn't agree with him. His supporters and Obama's own failures to recognize others in the party are the reasons he is slipping in the polls and will probably lose in the general election. I and others will Remember in November. So you finally said it isn’t all the Clinton’s fault. How gracious of you! Of course it isn’t. It is my fault and millions like me from PA(me) and all over. I was called bitter, clingy and,oh yes, Donna Brazile said the party doesn’t need me. The fault for Obama’s lack of traction falls right in his own nest of viperous supporters. He is an empty suit pumped up by infantile and arrogant followers who will demonize anyone who doesn’t agree with him. His supporters and Obama’s own failures to recognize others in the party are the reasons he is slipping in the polls and will probably lose in the general election. I and others will Remember in November.

]]> By: ann Gonzalez http://www.clipsandcomment.com/2008/08/07/maybe-whats-going-on-with-the-clintons-was-the-wrong-title/comment-page-1/#comment-274 ann Gonzalez Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:35:13 +0000 http://www.clipsandcomment.com/?p=474#comment-274 I agree with the posters above -- Obama hasn't won anything and certainly hasn't won fair and square. Since IA all Sen. Clinton and her supporters have been fighting for is the right and the opportunity to continue to campaign. Since IA -- Iowa -- the media and the Obama campaign have been full-court, non-stop, pushing and threatening and insisting that she get out of the race. In the history of Democratic conventions and nominations no one, no one, would be expected, or asked to drop out when they have close to half the delegates and the higher popular vote. That Democrats like yourself cannot see how wrong it is to deny Democrats the right to vote is definitely part of the problem. One person = one vote used to be a value at the heart of civil rights and human rights. As to why I won't support BHO even if he should walk away from the convention as the nominee? The answer there is that he and his supporters have abused not just Sen. Clinton but they have abused us, Democratic voters. Sen. Clinton says that politics is a contact sport and it is, but I'm not a politician, I'm a voter. I expect to be treated with respect and consideration and appealed to for my vote. I don't expect to be called a racist bitter old post-menopausal hag as a prelude to a whole host of other insults. I told Obama supporters back in IA that they were going to cost Obama the election even if he won the nomination and I believe I was right. H i t l e r was able to succeed as a politician by creating an in group and an out group and making it excruciatingly desirable to be a part of the in-group. We don't ever want a man of his political acumen to rise to power again and, as such, cannot support an Obama presidency. We've suffered under 7 years of Bush, and BHO is 4 more years of Bush-like politics. Your mistake here is believing that BHO is an economic Democrat, he's not, he's a free-market, deficit spending, trickle down Democrat. His economic policy will be even greater deficit. (Have you noticed he pays for his social programs via the savings from ending the war in Iraq???? Seriously. He doesn't realize that there will be no savings from ending the war in Iraq, that's all borrowed money. He's an economic fool.) PUMA! I agree with the posters above — Obama hasn’t won anything and certainly hasn’t won fair and square. Since IA all Sen. Clinton and her supporters have been fighting for is the right and the opportunity to continue to campaign. Since IA — Iowa — the media and the Obama campaign have been full-court, non-stop, pushing and threatening and insisting that she get out of the race. In the history of Democratic conventions and nominations no one, no one, would be expected, or asked to drop out when they have close to half the delegates and the higher popular vote. That Democrats like yourself cannot see how wrong it is to deny Democrats the right to vote is definitely part of the problem. One person = one vote used to be a value at the heart of civil rights and human rights.

As to why I won’t support BHO even if he should walk away from the convention as the nominee? The answer there is that he and his supporters have abused not just Sen. Clinton but they have abused us, Democratic voters. Sen. Clinton says that politics is a contact sport and it is, but I’m not a politician, I’m a voter. I expect to be treated with respect and consideration and appealed to for my vote. I don’t expect to be called a racist bitter old post-menopausal hag as a prelude to a whole host of other insults. I told Obama supporters back in IA that they were going to cost Obama the election even if he won the nomination and I believe I was right.

H i t l e r was able to succeed as a politician by creating an in group and an out group and making it excruciatingly desirable to be a part of the in-group. We don’t ever want a man of his political acumen to rise to power again and, as such, cannot support an Obama presidency.

We’ve suffered under 7 years of Bush, and BHO is 4 more years of Bush-like politics. Your mistake here is believing that BHO is an economic Democrat, he’s not, he’s a free-market, deficit spending, trickle down Democrat. His economic policy will be even greater deficit. (Have you noticed he pays for his social programs via the savings from ending the war in Iraq???? Seriously. He doesn’t realize that there will be no savings from ending the war in Iraq, that’s all borrowed money. He’s an economic fool.)

PUMA!

]]> By: Annetoo http://www.clipsandcomment.com/2008/08/07/maybe-whats-going-on-with-the-clintons-was-the-wrong-title/comment-page-1/#comment-273 Annetoo Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:15:13 +0000 http://www.clipsandcomment.com/?p=474#comment-273 I just have to laugh....look, Donna Brazille said on national TV, the new Dem party doesn't need its 'old" base anymore. So if she and others like yourself want to kick us to the curb, fine . But how you expect those kicked out to somehow unify now, is beyond my comprehension. Did I dream Hillary Clinton putting in 18 hour days for months on end in an effort to EARN her votes? Obama thinks everything is handed over like a payoff and wonders why she doesn't deliver. But Hillary cannot hand over her voters, they have to be earned. Seemingly Obama and company cannot grasp this concept <i>So, to my detractors on last night’s post, I will concede it’s not all the Clintons fault.</i> How very generous of you! lol! <i>Senator Obama won fair and square.</i> In what Universe? Even with all the cheating and arm twisting, he still hadn't won anything...unless of course one forgoes actual voting at the convention, which I'm sure would suit the DNC fine. Enjoy your new party. I just have to laugh….look, Donna Brazille said on national TV, the new Dem party doesn’t need its ‘old” base anymore. So if she and others like yourself want to kick us to the curb, fine . But how you expect those kicked out to somehow unify now, is beyond my comprehension. Did I dream Hillary Clinton putting in 18 hour days for months on end in an effort to EARN her votes? Obama thinks everything is handed over like a payoff and wonders why she doesn’t deliver. But Hillary cannot hand over her voters, they have to be earned. Seemingly Obama and company cannot grasp this concept

So, to my detractors on last night’s post, I will concede it’s not all the Clintons fault.

How very generous of you! lol!

Senator Obama won fair and square.

In what Universe? Even with all the cheating and arm twisting, he still hadn’t won anything…unless of course one forgoes actual voting at the convention, which I’m sure would suit the DNC fine. Enjoy your new party.

]]> By: gonzotx http://www.clipsandcomment.com/2008/08/07/maybe-whats-going-on-with-the-clintons-was-the-wrong-title/comment-page-1/#comment-272 gonzotx Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:50:39 +0000 http://www.clipsandcomment.com/?p=474#comment-272 What is it with you obamabots? You are so blind that you refuse to see that Obama, the DNC,and Main Media are all in the tank together. They stealing of the election for the "selected" preposterous nominee Obamai came @ at a price, around 1/2-1 billion dollars and the democratic loss of votes in the millions. Hillary WON the popular vote and if the RBC and DNC had not stolen the delegates and votes from MI/FL on 5//31 she would be the outright winner. By the way, you do know that Obambi does NOT have enough delegates for the nomination don't you? Obambi was dragged across the so called finish line by the three stooges Dean, Donna and Nancy. Possibly you are not aware that FDR WON his nomination on the 4th ballot! Obambi is associated witht he rife raft of the world and has a God complex known only by a few in history, and the comparisons are not kind. So go ahead and drink from the kool=aid fointain, we grown ups will save this country from the stink that has become the UNDEMOCRATIC party. What is it with you obamabots? You are so blind that you refuse to see that Obama, the DNC,and Main Media are all in the tank together. They stealing of the election for the “selected” preposterous nominee Obamai came @ at a price, around 1/2-1 billion dollars and the democratic loss of votes in the millions.
Hillary WON the popular vote and if the RBC and DNC had not stolen the delegates and votes from MI/FL on 5//31 she would be the outright winner. By the way, you do know that Obambi does NOT have enough delegates for the nomination don’t you?
Obambi was dragged across the so called finish line by the three stooges Dean, Donna and Nancy.
Possibly you are not aware that FDR WON his nomination on the 4th ballot!
Obambi is associated witht he rife raft of the world and has a God complex known only by a few in history, and the comparisons are not kind. So go ahead and drink from the kool=aid fointain, we grown ups will save this country from the stink that has become the UNDEMOCRATIC party.

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